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Unfortunately for some, survival mode doesn’t happen as the shock is so great that they just don’t want to accept it, and they do nothing....and die!
I think for John, even if he did go into survival mode, this wouldn’t have helped him as the second he turned into this valley, he had no way out.
The Tiger did not have the power to climb out of this terrain - if the cloud base would have allowed him, and this very limited clearing would have been his only option he would have had for any chance of survival.
The object shown in the 1947 photo was, as best as I can determine, somewhere just in the top left of this photo, if not in the trees just above the stream. Anywhere in this region would mean that it definitely would have eventually ended up in the stream and would have been washed away in the many floods that have come and gone since then..
I realise that this is all being very presumptuous, but it is the only scenario that fits the bill that I have come across to date.
If this supposed 1960’s sighting of ZK-AJV was in this spot, then due to the 63 years that has passed since it disappeared and all that could have happened to it since then, I guess we will never know for sure what happened.
It is possible that someone could have already removed it as I remember as a teenager hearing a story of someone doing just this sort of thing to an aeroplane that they had found in the bush. There is a mentality out there that if you find an aeroplane in the bush then it automatically becomes yours, but strange how they have to keep it a big secret?
“Everyone else would be in there helping themselves to it”, is their excuse!

As for me, I don’t know what more I can do unless more information becomes available.....

Many thanks to NZ Aerial Mapping, Chris Morris and Les O’Shea for all their help
And to Forest Management NZ Ltd for the permits and access through the forest.
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